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		<title>By: arsenal2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>arsenal2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another video of Saint Shawcross maiming a player during his loan spell at Royal Antwerp (Belgium).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JImCLHKXTOs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another video of Saint Shawcross maiming a player during his loan spell at Royal Antwerp (Belgium).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JImCLHKXTOs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JImCLHKXTOs</a></p>
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		<title>By: San Diego Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Diego Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arsenal&#039;s spirit was something to behold following Ramsey&#039;s injury, but what happened to the kid and everything that&#039;s transpired since has soured my appetite for football a bit. Perhaps I&#039;ll get it back eventually, but, speaking as a foreigner, I find the English pundits, the English media and every apologist for Shawcross -- including fans -- thoroughly disgusting. American sports culture is far from perfect, but the ignorance, snide broadcaster jokes, Stoke supporters&#039; songs and preemptive apologies for Shawcross are shockingly classless and coarse. I&#039;m old enough to have followed football awhile, but apparently not long enough to realize the depths of English sentiment and stubbornness.

Maybe it&#039;s too soon after Eduardo, but what happened to Ramsey is just crushing to me. I really thought he was destined for great things. It&#039;s a big ask, but I hope he can come back and fulfill his potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arsenal&#8217;s spirit was something to behold following Ramsey&#8217;s injury, but what happened to the kid and everything that&#8217;s transpired since has soured my appetite for football a bit. Perhaps I&#8217;ll get it back eventually, but, speaking as a foreigner, I find the English pundits, the English media and every apologist for Shawcross &#8212; including fans &#8212; thoroughly disgusting. American sports culture is far from perfect, but the ignorance, snide broadcaster jokes, Stoke supporters&#8217; songs and preemptive apologies for Shawcross are shockingly classless and coarse. I&#8217;m old enough to have followed football awhile, but apparently not long enough to realize the depths of English sentiment and stubbornness.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s too soon after Eduardo, but what happened to Ramsey is just crushing to me. I really thought he was destined for great things. It&#8217;s a big ask, but I hope he can come back and fulfill his potential.</p>
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		<title>By: YTSL</title>
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		<dc:creator>YTSL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Fabregas called for more protection but it’s hard to know what can be done against individual acts of stupidity, other than in retrospect.&quot;

Earlier in the match, Ramsey had a clear cut penalty denied.  My sense is that if that foul had been penalised, the Stoke players might have been more inclined to be more careful when tackling later in the game.

How many times do we see fouls not penalised and cards not doled out early in the game (sometimes up to the end of the first half)?  Also, how many times have we heard/seen that if a player gets a yellow card, he&#039;ll be obliged to be more careful later in the game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fabregas called for more protection but it’s hard to know what can be done against individual acts of stupidity, other than in retrospect.&#8221;</p>
<p>Earlier in the match, Ramsey had a clear cut penalty denied.  My sense is that if that foul had been penalised, the Stoke players might have been more inclined to be more careful when tackling later in the game.</p>
<p>How many times do we see fouls not penalised and cards not doled out early in the game (sometimes up to the end of the first half)?  Also, how many times have we heard/seen that if a player gets a yellow card, he&#8217;ll be obliged to be more careful later in the game?</p>
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		<title>By: Farnborough Gunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farnborough Gunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link didn&#039;t come out...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1254454/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Now-Aaron-Ramsey--broken-legs-chance.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link didn&#8217;t come out&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1254454/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Now-Aaron-Ramsey--broken-legs-chance.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/spo.....hance.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Farnborough Gunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farnborough Gunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article from Martin Samuel is worth reading...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1254454/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Now-Aaron-Ramsey--broken-legs-chance.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

(&quot;How can so many broken legs be down to chance?&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article from Martin Samuel is worth reading&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1254454/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Now-Aaron-Ramsey--broken-legs-chance.html" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
<p>(&#8220;How can so many broken legs be down to chance?&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: jeff/433</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff/433</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 03:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some dramatic improvement from Clichy and Bendtner, especially Clichy, although Bendtner&#039;s goal was great, so both of them really.

Vermaelen and Sagna are always good.

Eboue has had a couple good games.

It&#039;s slowly coming together.

Ramsey is going to be fine.  I would put good money on him to recover fully and quickly.

We really need Denilson to step up and for Diaby to stay fit.

The title is Chelsea&#039;s or Man United&#039;s to lose.  Either of them could absolutely win all of their matches.

There&#039;s a lot of joy to be had just watching good performances, and I&#039;m counting on a run of those from this Arsenal side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some dramatic improvement from Clichy and Bendtner, especially Clichy, although Bendtner&#8217;s goal was great, so both of them really.</p>
<p>Vermaelen and Sagna are always good.</p>
<p>Eboue has had a couple good games.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s slowly coming together.</p>
<p>Ramsey is going to be fine.  I would put good money on him to recover fully and quickly.</p>
<p>We really need Denilson to step up and for Diaby to stay fit.</p>
<p>The title is Chelsea&#8217;s or Man United&#8217;s to lose.  Either of them could absolutely win all of their matches.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of joy to be had just watching good performances, and I&#8217;m counting on a run of those from this Arsenal side.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashburton_Grove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashburton_Grove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with what has already been said about Stoke fans. 

The majority would not want to be associated with the chant, but it&#039;s the minority who tarnish their image.

There will be no police action or any docked points from the FA.

That chant is just in very poor taste on a day a talented young footballer could have had his career ended.

I&#039;ve never liked Stoke fans since their &#039;supporters&#039; started on a load of Arsenal fans outside the Herbert Chapman before the last home game of last season.

We just have to home Ramsey comes back every bit the player he was looking like he was going to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with what has already been said about Stoke fans. </p>
<p>The majority would not want to be associated with the chant, but it&#8217;s the minority who tarnish their image.</p>
<p>There will be no police action or any docked points from the FA.</p>
<p>That chant is just in very poor taste on a day a talented young footballer could have had his career ended.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never liked Stoke fans since their &#8216;supporters&#8217; started on a load of Arsenal fans outside the Herbert Chapman before the last home game of last season.</p>
<p>We just have to home Ramsey comes back every bit the player he was looking like he was going to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Valentin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the chant, clearly Sky was trying very hard to pretend they did not exists.
On French TV, one of the commentator mentionned that and stated that it was tactless, classless and appaling behaviour.
According to Andy Gray and other so called English press it was just good English banter that foreigners don&#039;t understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the chant, clearly Sky was trying very hard to pretend they did not exists.<br />
On French TV, one of the commentator mentionned that and stated that it was tactless, classless and appaling behaviour.<br />
According to Andy Gray and other so called English press it was just good English banter that foreigners don&#8217;t understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Valentin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pathetic excuse that Ryan Shawcross is not that type of player is patently not true as he has already broken the leg of another player and tried on another Arsenal players before.

http://content.thisis.co.uk/sentinel07/homepage/ad_panel/sentinel_backpage.pdf

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1083214/Arsenal-striker-Adebayor-ruled-weeks-Stoke-clash.html

Stoke are team of thugs, wrestler and rugby players who foul their ways to victory and safety in the premiership.
Because of the referee little Englander mentality teams are allowed to kick and maim other with impunity.
Because of the injury, nobody mentionned that we had two legitimate penalties appeal turn down (unless the rules have changed and shoving and kicking is now allowed against Arsenal).
Dany pugh committed the worst foul a two footed lunge at Eboue who saw it coming and got out of the way. If he had not moved away he would have had a broken leg like Rambo. Since the player got the ball the refere considered as an acceptable tackle. It was not it was RECKLESS and DANGEROUS. Fayet did the same to Gael.
Song was booked for winning cleanly the ball and will miss two games.
In the mean time a thug that has wrecked the career of at least two fellow professionals will be banned for three games and will represent his country against Egypt.
How do you reconcile that with fair and honest refereing?
The answer is for English referee to apply the rules and stop making excuses and leeway for lower team. They are REFEREE NOT EQUALIZER. Some simple rules that are NEVER followed by the England referee:
 
    + persistent fouling is a yellow card

    + overtly physical play is a reckless tackle and a reckless tackle is at minimum a yellow card.

    + deliberate professional foul is a yellow card.

    + dangerous play that put in danger the physical integrity of another player is a red card. Even if you do not make actual contact.

    + tackle from behind is at least a yellow card and if there is contact a red card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pathetic excuse that Ryan Shawcross is not that type of player is patently not true as he has already broken the leg of another player and tried on another Arsenal players before.</p>
<p><a href="http://content.thisis.co.uk/sentinel07/homepage/ad_panel/sentinel_backpage.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://content.thisis.co.uk/se.....ckpage.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1083214/Arsenal-striker-Adebayor-ruled-weeks-Stoke-clash.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/spo.....clash.html</a></p>
<p>Stoke are team of thugs, wrestler and rugby players who foul their ways to victory and safety in the premiership.<br />
Because of the referee little Englander mentality teams are allowed to kick and maim other with impunity.<br />
Because of the injury, nobody mentionned that we had two legitimate penalties appeal turn down (unless the rules have changed and shoving and kicking is now allowed against Arsenal).<br />
Dany pugh committed the worst foul a two footed lunge at Eboue who saw it coming and got out of the way. If he had not moved away he would have had a broken leg like Rambo. Since the player got the ball the refere considered as an acceptable tackle. It was not it was RECKLESS and DANGEROUS. Fayet did the same to Gael.<br />
Song was booked for winning cleanly the ball and will miss two games.<br />
In the mean time a thug that has wrecked the career of at least two fellow professionals will be banned for three games and will represent his country against Egypt.<br />
How do you reconcile that with fair and honest refereing?<br />
The answer is for English referee to apply the rules and stop making excuses and leeway for lower team. They are REFEREE NOT EQUALIZER. Some simple rules that are NEVER followed by the England referee:</p>
<p>    + persistent fouling is a yellow card</p>
<p>    + overtly physical play is a reckless tackle and a reckless tackle is at minimum a yellow card.</p>
<p>    + deliberate professional foul is a yellow card.</p>
<p>    + dangerous play that put in danger the physical integrity of another player is a red card. Even if you do not make actual contact.</p>
<p>    + tackle from behind is at least a yellow card and if there is contact a red card.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Below is the link to Ricardo Fuller&#039;s interview in the Times preceding the FA Cup game last month. The third-from-last paragraph is the one to read. 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article6999667.ece

Pretty much sums it up for me :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Below is the link to Ricardo Fuller&#8217;s interview in the Times preceding the FA Cup game last month. The third-from-last paragraph is the one to read. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article6999667.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t.....999667.ece</a></p>
<p>Pretty much sums it up for me :/</p>
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